sawyer camp trail...ground was wet and we only did 12 miles...Jim had a good push on his mountain bike at the top of the hill now that he has road tires on it...a couple of more outings on asphalt and i think Matt and I will eventually push him over the edge to join the dark side...felt better climbing the mini hill today...crazy Matt tried to sprint on a low gear up to the pay phone--p'shaw! you got spanked hommie! hahahahahaha...it looks as if i still need to burn off the holiday eating spree...teehee...oh, and Jim didn't hurl today (then again, he didn't hurl on the last one either)...